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imgOfflineThomas Carroll School
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Playground Names
Posted: 18 Oct 07 12:24 PM Modified By Thomas Carroll School  on 10/19/2007 2:59:50 AM)

This maybe a strange question but I'm hoping someone can help.

Our playground on all our grants, donation forms, events and how we promoted it and networked to fundraiser was the Carroll School Playground. We ask  the kids name the Park and they came up with Tiger Park- our school mascot is a Tiger so our welcome sign would say "Welcome to the Carroll School Playground At Tiger Park". We had to submitt this for a school committee/council vote. Now we have a small group that is looking to get this named after a political person in our city that has passed many years ago and change the name completely.

The people close to the project want to keep this what we fundraised it as- The Carroll School Playground and wonder if we changed the name  is their any conflict or misrepresentation of the Playground Committee that we raised our entire funds under the presumption that this was called the Carroll School Playground- for all grants, city grants, and all fundraising efforts and now are changing the name so soon ( we built Aug 18th and still haven't cut our offical ribbon yet due to the politics of getting the plaques for the benches approved for our major donors.)

I think many of our donors would be shocked and possible upset if this small group is successful in trying to change the name for this person. Could that come back to haunt the Playground Committee that we weren’t forthright of a name change? If you fundraise under one name aren't obligated to keep that name? Someone may have not donated $10K or what ever amount given it would have name for a person they didn't know upfront?

I'm upset since this whole project is about the kids, they designed, they draw our logo and tehy inspried it and to make this a political thing now is unfair.

Any advice in how to keep my original playground name?

 

 

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Re: Playground Names
Posted: 18 Oct 07 1:33 PM

Wow, that is surprising that the small group would want to override what the kids have done, and what your group as a whole had agreed upon.  My suggestion would be that you and the others put your foot down and say that this is a playground for kids and that it would be great to have a sitting area/parklike area that is dedicated to the name of this deceased individual... i.e. I'm envisioning perhaps an area where there are two benches that face each other, so that parents can sit and chat, perhaps with some cement planters where plants could go... I just think that there is a way to make a happy compromise, but I really would not agree with changing the name of the project at this point... I'd try to get the small group to focus their efforts on creating an area-of-improvement to feature a plaque for the deceased individual. 

And I don't know if you are a public school or private school, but this is a good example as to why our school district does not allow buildings to be named after 'people'...because you end up getting people with strong ties to that individual advocating and it gets really political... you might want to bring this up to your board in the future.  I see your school is already named after someone but just saying that as you can see, it does present problems when people start championing their person-of-choice.

 

 

imgOfflineThomas Carroll School
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Re: Playground Names
Posted: 18 Oct 07 2:18 PM

We are a public school. I was shocked as well as this turn of events. I was hoping from a legal stand point that I would be able to justify keeping the name as is and not changing because I know this has already and will continue to upset donors/volunteers who loved the idea that this was ALL about the kids from every angle and it was a community grass roots effort. The kids will be heartbroken but hopefully it will all work out.

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Re: Playground Names
Posted: 18 Oct 07 3:30 PM
I have lots of experience in this area....and my best advice is to make it impossible for them to make that decision.  First of all, get your numbers together and write a letter documenting the work that was done.  The fact that the children inspired it and named it, the fact that the money was generated with that name, etc.  Make a list of how many donors contributed cash.  You don't have to list them all by amounts, but list the fact that X number of donors gave Y amount of cash.  Also, list the people who gave in kind donations.  Estimate the number of hours contributed to this build.  Always keep in mind that you are bringing a gift to this community, a gift of a playground and the gift of people committed to the future of that community.

Then, contact your donors and ask them to write in support of what your kids have done and the name.  Nothing gets politicians more upset than to see a bunch of letters coming in.  Make up a form letter and send it out via email.  Hand it out to all the kids or stand at the playground and get parents to sign it.   Sit down with somebody in the city who has the ability to carry the baton for you.  Explain that you're sorry it's come to this and that you may have overlooked the "procedures" but that considering all the people who have donated time, money and effort to this, you just know you can count on their support.  Always go in with strong evidence, always go in with the attitude that you are just sure this person is going to do the right thing and always ask them if there's anything else you could and should be doing and never leave without asking that person if you have his/her support.

You don't have to get angry about this or confrontational.  I always go in with the attitude that there's obviously been a mis-communication because that allows people to wiggle out of the corner.  Never trap rats or politicians in corners; always give them a way out.  And explain how this would look to the kids who have worked so hard on this.  Never attend a meeting with an elected official without a few people going and a game plan.  Know your talking points.  Stay as unemotional as possible, but stay firm.  If there's an alternative offer it.  For instance, if there's a possibility of naming a grove of trees, a garden area or a fountain after "the person who should be honored but not here at this time in this way" then bring that to the table.  Acknowledge the fact that person deserves something and make it clear that this is not enough of an honor for them.  Hard for people to slip away from that argument.

Always take a group of people to the public meetings.  Go to every park commission or city council meeting or school board meeting.  These are public forums.    Even if it's not on the agenda, most meetings have a public forum portion of the agenda and it doesn't hurt to simply stand where they can see you as they walk in and remind them of what is going on.  Nothing plays better in the press than to see a group of kids and parents at public meetings so make friends with a reporter or two.  One great visual is to either have people dress alike or (my favorite because you can hand out all you like) print up flyers on brightly colored paper with name you have chosen.  If you can go with school colors, great.  Simply print on standard paper "Carroll School Playground at Tiger Park" for people in the audience to hold up at public meetings.  We use this a lot...we hand them out at the door and people simply hold them up quietly and make their presence known.  We've recruited people attending meetings for other reasons this way, also.

Don't be afraid to recruit outside the area.  Get everyone in your family to write a letter to the powers that be.

Keep us posted and good luck.
imgOfflineThomas Carroll School
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Re: Playground Names
Posted: 24 Oct 07 4:09 PM

Thank you to everyone for their advice. It was very helpful. We are using all your great tips to help get our playground named after the name our kids came up with which is Tiger Park vs. naming it after a political figure that a small group is trying to persuade our City to name it after.

We found this great link http://www.gopetition.com/online/14893.html which does on line petitions which we have sent to everyone we know to help show support and to keep this all about the kids. Feel free to click on and sign our petition:)

Thanks again for the help

 

imgOfflineThomas Carroll School
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Re: Playground Names
Posted: 15 Nov 07 11:19 AM

Just to follow and say how this turned out.

Who knew such a huge city wide debate would happen because of this. School Committee felt regardless of our petition of over 400 signatures and our strong community support that they were to name the playground after the school name and not the name the kids choose (Tiger Park- after our school mascot) or the one the small group wanted to name it after a person.  The council didn't want there to be a divide and for any party to feel they lost.

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