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 Purchasing Equipment - Discounts from Vendors?
 
imgOfflineWill F.
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Purchasing Equipment - Discounts from Vendors?
Posted: 27 May 07 4:33 PM

We are looking at purchasing equipment.  We've been in touch with three companies that sell equipment that is made by some of the biggest play equipment companies.  Last week, a play equipment salesman told us he could give us a huge discount if we ordered equipment from them by the end of this month (May), and even bigger discount if we made full payment at that time - but that if we didn't "we wouldn't see these prices again."  I'm not sure how to take this - can anyone help, is this common in buying playground equipment?  I'm not sure we're ready to make a final selection of that company, but I don't want to pass up a deal that might let us buy even more equipment for our money.  Can anyone tell me if you experienced anything like this when you purchased your equipment, and how you handled it?  Thanks!

 

imgOfflinespatter
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Re: Purchasing Equipment - Discounts from Vendors?
Posted: 29 May 07 1:14 PM

Will F:

We utilize a selection process to determine which vendor to choose.  While the price of equipment is a big consideration, there needs to be some customer service from the playground manufacturer as well.  For our selection process we invite playground sales reps to make a presentation (to a selection team) that addresses these questions...which can all be found in the KaBOOM! Toolkit.  

  • Describe your product: Advantages of using your product line, quality, warranty, etc.
  • How well does your proposal meet the priority elements identified by the children who attended our design day?
    • Note: The results of the Design Day are intended to give you an idea of the kinds of elements and colors that kids in the neighborhood desire.  We realize that there are site limitations, and non-playground items listed by the children, which will not be included in your proposal. (We include a summary of the design day results...we had one child request a volcano this year!)
  • How well does your proposal meet our budget?
  • What incentives or special deals does your company offer?
  • Does your company have its own community build program? If yes, please describe.
  • What support will we receive during…
    • Site Preparation
    • Equipment Delivery and Sorting
    • Build Day (Scheduled for DATE HERE)
    • After the Build Day
  • What tools and equipment will your company provide during the site preparation and build day?
  • Describe your company’s experience with volunteer builds.
  • How have your representatives handled problems that arose during community builds?

You may add questions if you like, just be sure to give each representative about an hour to set up their displays and to take follow up questions after their presentation.

 

Good Luck!

 

imgOfflineJEANETTE
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Re: Purchasing Equipment - Discounts from Vendors?
Posted: 04 Jun 07 9:49 AM

HI WILL,

WE HAVE HAD SALE CATALOGS AND COUPONS MAILED TO US, SOME OF THEM ARRIVE BEFORE THE BEGINNING OF EACH SEASON, OTHERS MAY SEND THEM OUT MORE/OR LESS FREQUENTLY THEN THAT.  WE HAVEN'T BEEN TOLD WE WOULD GET A BIGGER DISCOUNT BY PAYING IN FULL WHEN WE ORDER, BY THE END OF THE MONTH, THAT SEEMS A LITTLE PUSHY. 

I THINK SALESPEOPLE HAVE CERTAIN TACTICS THEIR COMPANIES ENCOURAGE THEM TO USE AND YOU SHOULD CONSIDER HOW THE RELATIONSHIP THEY ARE DEVELOPING WITH YOU MAKES YOU FEEL.  IF YOU ARE UNCOMFORTABLE WITH THEM, ARE YOU GOING TO FEEL COMFORTABLE ASKING FOR HELP WHEN QUESTIONS OR PROBLEMS ARISE, ETC?

WE WERE LEANING TOWARDS ONE VENDOR, BUT NOW PLAN TO USE ANOTHER, PARTLY DUE TO THE FACT THAT WE FEEL MORE CONFIDENT IN THE CUSTOMER SERVICE WE WILL BE RECEIVING FROM THEM.

HOPE THAT HELPS YOU!

JEANETTE

 

imgOfflineburkeplayground
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Re: Purchasing Equipment - Discounts from Vendors?
Posted: 08 Jun 07 8:16 PM

I do not know if there is a 'hard and fast rule' about this, but we have an itemized budget fmor our playground rep. and his qouted prices are less than those listed in our printed catalog fomr the playground manufacturer. Perhaps the more piece you buy, the more they can 'adjust' the overall prices.

 

We are purchasing thru Playworld Systems. Past experience with them was outstanding. Excellent reps. & product!

Good luck with your project!! :)

imgOfflinecmad
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Re: Purchasing Equipment - Discounts from Vendors?
Posted: 17 Jun 07 10:13 PM
We had a coupon from one vendor but are leaning toward another , would it be inappropriate to ask about a discount or honoring the coupon?
imgOfflinejackthecat
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Re: Purchasing Equipment - Discounts from Vendors?
Posted: 18 Jun 07 10:12 AM

I don't think it would be remiss of you at all to try and talk down the bid you've received, especially if you have a coupon.  That's the very heart of commerce isn't it? 

Anyone else have a little more experience in negotiating with vendors?

imgOfflinemerrywbee
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Re: Purchasing Equipment - Discounts from Vendors?
Posted: 24 Jun 07 12:59 AM
I think some of the vendors do have "sales" and "incentives".  One that we were going to go with, their company has a Fall Sale on certain configurations (i.e. not "designed" but pre-designed options only), and then at other times of the year they had a discounted coupon.  The vendor we are going to go with now, Landscape Structures, does not have sales.  They do offer a discount of about 6% if you purchase through a company called U.S. Communities.  You should definitely ask about discounts... most vendors won't mind a healthy discussion around the price, and at the very least, ask about whether they are a part of US Communities, or other group purchasing companies-- it helps bring down the price a little bit.  You can always try to negotiate on the other aspects of the playground, too, such as their supervision fee, or delivery fee. 
imgOfflinewolteam
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Re: Purchasing Equipment - Discounts from Vendors?
Posted: 07 Jul 07 3:58 PM
No I don't think it would be inappropriate. You'll never know unless you ask. The worst they could say is no. If you are persistent I think your vendor may offer you some type of rebate. Remember every bit (no matter how small or large) helps make your project a success.
imgOfflinemerrywbee
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Re: Purchasing Equipment - Discounts from Vendors?
Posted: 07 Jul 07 11:47 PM

I think it is always worth asking about in a respectful way... these vendors are "business" people--they are used to talking about price/worth of their equipment.  As long as you handled it in a respectful manner, I would almost bet that they would not mind the question being asked.  They are after all, selling "wares" just like stores selling goods, dealerships selling cars, etc.  If they are too sensitive to talk about pricing and discounts, they are probably in the wrong business.  I say go for it!  We asked our guy about "is this the best price that the company can do" and he wasn't offended at all.  No, it didn't get us a lower price, but it also didn't hurt to ask either.  We are using the US Communities discount with Landscape Structures and that takes about $2500 off of our playground equipment cost.  I'd love to see more off, but what can you do... we'd already gone through enough design tweaks with the vendor that I think he "knew" that he was a shoe-in, i.e. I suppose if we had been working with two designers and then faced each one with the "better price" question, they might have come down more in order to keep the sale, but we didn't want to do things that way.  We just liked the LSI stuff and wanted to tweak the design and we told the other companies "no" earlier in the process so that they wouldn't be wasting their time.

 

 

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Re: Purchasing Equipment - Discounts from Vendors?
Posted: 09 Jul 07 5:55 PM
There might be even more discounts that can be found if you ask the right questions...the playground manufacturer that we are working with is on the State's cooperative purchasing contract. This is essentially a list of State approved vendors.  It might not happen everywhere, but it might be worthwhile to see if your state has a similar list, and if the vendors you are considering have a similar contract with the State.  If they do, these discounts might only be available to governmental entities, like cities or school districts, but the discounts are significant.  In addition to receiving 3% off our order for paying cash, we received an additional 18% off our playground equipment order because of their participation in the State's procurement contracts.
imgOfflinecmad
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Re: Purchasing Equipment - Discounts from Vendors?
Posted: 16 Jul 07 11:36 PM

I did ask our vendor, his reply was that they give everyone a fair price. 

imgOfflinestaci@my180.net
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Re: Purchasing Equipment - Discounts from Vendors?
Posted: 23 Jul 07 8:59 AM

Hi Will,

This is probably too late, but, I think you need to talk with your reps.  Everyone can offer a "discount" - but, what else do they do?  Something I learned from Landscape Structures was that their equipment all comes labeled and is attached to each play piece.  So, there is no need to label and sort.  Also, do they come to the build?  how do they help you.

The rep from Little Tykes commercial has had poor follow-up and the rep from Game Time has had great follow up, offered great incentives, but, in the end we chose Landscape Structures because of their quality, unique products and their attention to details and customer service!  They will go the extra mile.

Cheaper is not always better and I always prefer to go with the addage:  you get what you pay for!  So, ask questions, find out what they can and will do for you and if they really want your business they will go the extra mile. 

Anyone can sell "price."

Hope I helped.

Staci Wanichek, Prospect Point Playground Project.

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